Gay Marriage
This excerpt is stolen from my brother blog at defcon:blog trust me its gonna set me up a little. I actually argued against his point on gay marriage being allowed to be legal and he turned me around pretty good.
1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Brittany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract
At first I argued many of these points as valid. Gays are promiscuous their life styles expose them to more disease, so on and so forth. If you were to deny marriage benefits based on lifestyle factors, health conditions and all that jive there would be alot of marriages that were illegal. If we are to dissalow them marriage because of increased risk of disease and not wanting higher health insurance costs do we deny that right to people with family history of cancer and heart disease and diabetes(and no im not calling being gay a disease). All of the arguments above I used to accept as valid until arguing with my brother about it and getting my ass kicked in that argument. Many of our arguments are good and two sided he brings his econ/buisness argument and I counter with history arguments etc. this was not one of those arguments he mopped the floor with me.
The only basis people have for outlawing gay marriage would be through the church if the church does not accept gay marriage or being gay as a lifestyle(which is ignorant). Legally there is and never will be an argument for dissallowing gay marriage and lets be honest at this point marriage has lost much of its reilgious meaning and is now simply a legal contract. Thus the divorce process and the shenaniganry which ensues in that process. For shit sake, I mean you can get married by judges and mayors now completely taking religion out of it, your married by the power of the state. If people would open their eyes and pull their nose out of the bible they are thumping they would realize that there is no way to prevent it and nor should there be. If someone is gay and they want to get married I say let them. I will stick by my policy of as long as they dont bother me and go overboard showing they are gay I could care less what someone does behind closed doors, its just people being who they are get over it...shave get a hair cut its the 90's, the times are changing.
1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Brittany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract
At first I argued many of these points as valid. Gays are promiscuous their life styles expose them to more disease, so on and so forth. If you were to deny marriage benefits based on lifestyle factors, health conditions and all that jive there would be alot of marriages that were illegal. If we are to dissalow them marriage because of increased risk of disease and not wanting higher health insurance costs do we deny that right to people with family history of cancer and heart disease and diabetes(and no im not calling being gay a disease). All of the arguments above I used to accept as valid until arguing with my brother about it and getting my ass kicked in that argument. Many of our arguments are good and two sided he brings his econ/buisness argument and I counter with history arguments etc. this was not one of those arguments he mopped the floor with me.
The only basis people have for outlawing gay marriage would be through the church if the church does not accept gay marriage or being gay as a lifestyle(which is ignorant). Legally there is and never will be an argument for dissallowing gay marriage and lets be honest at this point marriage has lost much of its reilgious meaning and is now simply a legal contract. Thus the divorce process and the shenaniganry which ensues in that process. For shit sake, I mean you can get married by judges and mayors now completely taking religion out of it, your married by the power of the state. If people would open their eyes and pull their nose out of the bible they are thumping they would realize that there is no way to prevent it and nor should there be. If someone is gay and they want to get married I say let them. I will stick by my policy of as long as they dont bother me and go overboard showing they are gay I could care less what someone does behind closed doors, its just people being who they are get over it...shave get a hair cut its the 90's, the times are changing.
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